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#1 : 2012-04-27

Preface

  • Please settle show-toy comparison disputes here.
  • Please do not alter other people's comparisons. Instead, add your own.
  • Please use the {{ShowToyComparison}} template. The template has only room for two images, but more may be added externally if required.
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Please remember that with the exception of the McDonald's Happy Meal toys and the Ponyville toys of five of the six main ponies, none of the toys have accurate hairstyles, on account of most toys having stylable hair, and those that have solid plastic hair are made from one of the five molds of the main characters. –Throwawaytv 09:57, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Many more exceptions since, but otherwise still so. (7)6(four) (talk) 04:00, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Please note that the "glitter"/"crystal" mystery pack toys' mane colors are unknown, as they merely duplicate the ponies' coat colors regardless of their usual mane colors (as shown by these three toys of Fluttershy, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash). 64.118.123.130 11:35, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Transportation and buildings

The wiki has referred to these using generic terms, but the toy line has given some of them actual names. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Friendship Express Train

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedFriendship Express Trainunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Othershow image has somewhat faded colors
Speeding train approaching S2E14 C38A3B075056900B10403E67DFD87A46.jpg

Three coloring pages on Hasbro's website confirm that these are the same thing. For some reason, the opening used in Lesson Zero and Luna Eclipsed shows it as blue instead of pink. Also, while the toy doesn't specify who it belongs to, a commercial has Pinkie Pie call it her train. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

(Sweetie Belle's) Ice Cream Train Car

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamed(Sweetie Belle's) Ice Cream Train Carunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Othershow image has somewhat faded colors
Speeding train approaching S2E14 C389D2495056900B10406A452A6B320A.jpg

Consistently appears as the first car behind the engine, so most likely the same thing. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

(Fluttershy's) Nursery Train Car

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamed(Fluttershy's) Nursery Train Carunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Othershow image has somewhat faded colors
Speeding train approaching S2E14 C38A04E35056900B107CCB31EF4D32EC.jpg

Consistently appears as the second car behind the engine, so most likely the same thing. For some reason, the opening used in Lesson Zero and Luna Eclipsed shows it as the fourth car and colored less like the toy. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Ponyville Schoolhouse

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedPonyville Schoolhouseunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Other
The schoolhouse in Ponyville S1E12 75711C9F5056900B10C78D57DA236312.jpg

Equestria Daily's Season 1 Retrospective Interview with Lauren Faust (question 10) indicates that these are the same thing. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

(Applejack's) Sweet Apple Barn

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamed(Applejack's) Sweet Apple Barnunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Other
SweetAppleAcres BE1A46915056900B10AF7097DBB3FD14.jpg

A commercial shows the Sweet Apple Barn looking the same as it does in the show (and in Sweet Apple Acres), indicating that they're the same thing. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

(Twilight Sparkle's) Twinkling Balloon

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamed(Twilight Sparkle's) Twinkling Balloonunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Other
Pinkie Pie outside Dash's home S1E25 07421A975056900B1008C604DC59A932.jpg

Equestria Daily's Season 1 Retrospective Interview with Lauren Faust (question 10) indicates that these are the same thing. For some reason, the only time in the show that it has the upper basket is in The Return of Harmony Part 2, and only in shots where Applejack is in it. Also, while the toy and commercial both say that it belongs to Twilight Sparkle, the Happy Meal Interview with Pinkie Pie has her call it her balloon. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Clarification: that interview doesn't explicitly identify the balloon it mentions; further ownership discussion here. 76.9.77.70 21:09, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Pony Princess Wedding Castle

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedPony Princess Wedding Castleunknown
Sex
Kind
Cutie mark
Coat color
Mane color
Eye color
Other
Twilight 'I was prepared to do my best' S3E1 2012 Wedding Castle playset Shining Armor Princess Cadance

Hasbro's Pony Wedding microsite indicates that these are the same thing. 76.9.64.59 16:08, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

General discussion

I'd stick to generic terms. There aren't that many trains and balloons in the show. If we ever get a "Transportation" page, we can mention the Hasbro names in the Merchandise section. --Tulipclaymore 11:24, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Now that the Friendship Express Train has been called by name in the title of MMMystery on the Friendship Express, I think that that name at least should be used, especially since there is another train in the show (the one from Over a Barrel and the flashback in Family Appreciation Day). 64.118.123.130 09:01, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
The schoolhouse has gotten its own article, but instead of being called Ponyville Schoolhouse as it should be, it was called Ponyville Elementary School. 64.118.123.130 14:35, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
And now that has been fixed. 64.118.123.130 18:20, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
The wiki is using the Hasbro name of Golden Oaks Library; if we're using an out-of-show name that isn't toy-official, then we should definitely be using the ones that are toy-official. 76.9.64.59 16:08, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Animals

Since the toy animals aren't named, these probably aren't as important as other comparisons. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Unnamed/Unnamed/Angel Bunny

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamedunnamedunknown
Sexfemaleunknownunknown
Kindbunnybunny yes
Cutie mark
Coat colorwhitewhite yes
Mane color
Eye colorblackblack yes
Other
Fluttershy tending to animals S1E07 BE1B57E75056900B10F7D90439889834.jpg
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameAngel Bunnyunnamedunknown
Sexmaleunknownunknown
Kindbunnybunny yes
Cutie mark
Coat colorwhitewhite yes
Mane color
Eye colorblackblack yes
Other
Angel mad S02E19 BE1B57E75056900B10F7D90439889834.jpg

Even though Angel is much more prominent in the show, I'd say that the toy bunny is the one from Dragonshy. The toy bunny does have art that's shaped differently than in the show, but always has that yellow bow (except this version, which has a pink bow instead). The question is, even if the toys are a different bunny from the show, should they still be mentioned in the Angel article? 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Pair of chipmunks

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamedunnamedunknown
Sexfemale and maleunknownunknown
Kindchipmunkschipmunks yes
Cutie mark
Coat colorbeige and brownbeige and brown yes
Mane color
Eye colorblackblack yes
Other
Fluttershy tending to animals S1E07 AFC61E805056900B108300B3B5A6C7CA.jpg
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamedunnamedunknown
Sexfemale and maleunknownunknown
Kindchipmunkschipmunks yes
Cutie mark
Coat colorbeige with brownyellow with purpleno
Mane color
Eye colorblackblack yes
Other
Fluttershy tending to animals S1E07 13.jpg

Even though the second pair is bundled with Fluttershy, the first pair looks more like the pair from the show. Just an interesting bit of trivia. 76.9.87.146 18:09, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say they're the same, considering most animals bundled with ponies have altered colors.Plumander 20:43, April 3, 2012 (UTC)Plumander

Archive

I wasn't sure which discussions are ongoing; please continue any discussion from the archive on this page. –Throwawaytv 12:29, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Peachy Sweet

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedPeachy Sweetunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarth ponyEarth pony yes
Cutie marka piea pie yes
Coat colorgreenish-yellowgreenish-yellow yes
Mane colorreddish-orangeunknownunknown
Eye colorlight greenlight green yes
Other
Family shocked S02E14 Mystery pack 4 Peachy Sweet

Apple family member, currently listed as Ruby Rhubarb / Tarte Tatin. 64.118.113.33 16:23, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

Whoops, forgot to write a conclusion. Anyway, I'd say that they're the same pony. 64.118.113.33 18:09, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with this, seems odd with the hair and green coloring but it works. --Mylittlewut, Friendship is Questionable 00:16, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
So, how many people need to agree before her placeholder name voting can be replaced with the name Peachy Sweet? 76.9.87.146 09:20, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
Just one, really. If a comparison has been up for a few days, I assume people who have an interest in these things must have had a chance to comment, and if they didn't, they silently assent to the majority. In cases where there already is a placeholder poll up, the admin/moderator who made that poll should probably agree, too, though. --Tulipclaymore 10:49, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
I think you should change the name and put "per discussion" (with the link) in the edit summary. I personally don't think we should use the glitter toys as definite sources, but concensus seems to be that we should. –Throwawaytv 12:18, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks; I just wanted to make sure I had permission before making the change (which is now done). 64.118.123.130 13:33, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

Firecracker Burst

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunkonownFirecracker Burstunkonown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicorn ponyunicorn pony yes
Cutie markunknownfireunknown
Coat colorlight bluetealnot quite
Mane colorlight orangeorange with lighter streakalmost
Eye colorpurpleblueno
Other
Marey Fetlock id Firecracker Burst Mystery pack

I think this is silly. Firecracker Burst isn't even blue, she' teal. Plus, we don't know her cutie mark, so no. For me, Cutie Marks are the key of identifying similar ponies. 187.78.164.117 20:47, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

Better? Mimi15 13:11, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
I agree, they don't have many similarities, too few to decide. –Throwawaytv 12:32, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
But in table she is named Firecracker Burst. Mimi15 15:19, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
Firecracker Burst is her placeholder name, not her official name. These toy-duplicating placeholder names can be confusing–I've been meaning to start a discussion about that, so now I have here. 64.118.123.130 16:16, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunknownFirecracker Burstunkonown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicorn ponyunicorn pony yes
Cutie markunknownfireno
Coat colorlight bluetealnot quite
Mane colorlight orangeorange with lighter streakalmost
Eye colorblueblue yes
Other
Unicorn Mare 1 S3E05 Firecracker Burst Mystery pack
I think this could be her, named 'Sea Spray' by the reddit. –Mylittlewut,Friendship is Questionable 04:10, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

Crimson Gala

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameRed GalaCrimson Galaalmost
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markthree cupcakes with green frosting and an apple slice on top of eachthree cupcakes with green frostingyes, neglecting the lack of apples on the toy
Coat colorpale pinklight rednot quite
Mane coloryellow-greenunknownunknown
Eye colorgreengreen yes
Other
Red Gala ID S1E1 Mystery pack 4 Crimson Gala
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedCrimson Galaunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markthree cupcakes with green frosting and an apple slice on top of eachthree cupcakes with green frostingyes, neglecting the lack of apples on the toy
Coat colorpale pinklight rednot quite
Mane colorbubblegum pink in most appearances, light orange in one appearanceunknownunknown
Eye colorgreengreen yes
Other
Magdalena ID S1E01 Mystery pack 4 Crimson Gala

Previous comparison and discussion. This basically boils down to "the one whose name partly matches, or the one whose name is unknown (and thus could either completely match, partly match, or be completely different)?" Since they're both Apple family members, I was wondering if we should look at whether the real-world terms "Red Gala" and "Crimson Gala" refer to separate kinds of Gala apples or the same kind(s) of Gala apple(s). 10.8.56.52 18:26, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not a horticulturalist, but some cursory research suggests both Red and Crimson Galas exist and are minor alterations of the original Gala apple. Pony-wise, the toy could match both; the once-unnamed one is closer thanks to the technically-unknown/practically-red mane, but it's complicated by the recent merge with Pacific Rose. I'd just mention the toy in both entries. --Tulipclaymore 20:51, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Sassaflash

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedSassaflashunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie marktwo lightning boltstwo lightning bolts yes
Coat colorblue-green (lighter than that of the cerulean-maned show pony in the other comparison below)blue-greenyes, and more similar than in the other comparison below
Mane colorvanillaunknownunknown
Eye colororangeorange yes
Other
Sassaflash ID S1E1 Mystery pack 4 Sassaflash
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedSassaflashunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie marktwo lightning boltstwo lightning bolts yes
Coat colorblue-green (darker than that of the cerulean-maned show pony in the other comparison above)blue-greenyes, but less similar than in the other comparison above
Mane colorceruleanunknownunknown
Eye colororangeorange yes
Other
Bluebird Happiness Mystery pack 4 Sassaflash

Previous comparisons and discussion. The differences between the two ponies from the show are mane color (which the toy doesn't have) and coat color, and since the toy's coat is closer to the vanilla-maned pony's coat than to the cerulean-maned pony's coat, I believe that the toy is intended to represent the vanilla-maned pony. 10.8.56.52 18:26, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Has anything changed since last time around? I still have the position that we should wait for Hasbro to release a properly-coloured toy and leave things be until then. --Tulipclaymore 19:24, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Nothing's really changed, but I did check the colors again and am back to being pretty sure that the vanilla-maned pony's coat is closer to the toy's coat. I just can't see the logic in looking at a toy pony with no known mane color and two show ponies and deciding that the toy pony represents the show pony whose coat looks less like the toy pony's. 64.118.123.130 05:44, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
The toy's coat colour and the image on the card's coat colour don't match either of the ponies of the show, and I can't really agree that Wind Whistler is closer than Bluebird Happiness. It's a different colour tone altogether as far as I see it. Sorry. Of course my opinion won't matter much if you get another supporter or two to chime in; even if I disagree with your conclusion, you do have an argument, and I can't stop it if I'm outvoted. --Tulipclaymore 14:22, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
You're right. Mimi15 18:19, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
Right about what? Which statements are you agreeing with? 64.118.110.141 08:50, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
I agrue that Bluebird Happiness is more similar to Sassaflash than Wind Whistler. Mimi15 13:25, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
The crystal toys' coat colors don't always perfectly match the ponies from the show, as seen with this toy of Applejack and especially this toy of Pinkie Pie. Also, if other comparisons are anything to go by, it's the toys, not the cards, that matter. And are you just looking at the colors or are you comparing them in an image editor? Because I've compared them in GIMP, and that's how I determined that the toy's coat color is more like that of Wind Whistler than that of Bluebird Happiness (due to Bluebird Happiness having more blue in her coat than Wind Whistler's coat or the toy's coat do). 64.118.110.141 08:50, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
I only mentioned the image on the card because it might have given us a clue (it, too, is an official depiction, if less important than the toy itself), but in this case it doesn't. The problem with looking so closely at the colours is that Wind Whistler's coat colour varies depending on your source and the toy's colour might also be quite different in reality than it is on the photo. Both ponies and the toy have a greenish-blue hue. Sure you can say Wind Whistler's coat has more green in it and therefore it matches the toy more closely, but you can also say the toy is darker, on average, and therefore matches Bluebird Happiness better. And that's just from the images in the comparison above. That's why I'd rather not argue on the level of which miniscule difference in colouration is more important. --Tulipclaymore 15:02, May 21, 2012 (UTC)
Well, if it could be argued either way, then we should at least rename Sassaflash back to Bluebird Happiness (but still mention the toy in her description). 64.118.126.172 14:51, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
And then we're back where we started, which is with a toy with a de facto greenish-blue mane matching a pony with a greenish-blue mane more closely than a pony with a yellow mane. Glitter toys: not my favourite. --Tulipclaymore 21:53, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
But why are the solid-colored toys' manes given any consideration when they don't actually have mane colors at all (always just being the same as the coat color)? 64.118.126.172 22:33, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
That's only accurate academically. I certainly prefer to ignore the glitter toys' mane colour whenever possible, and that's a comfortable position to take when other properties of the toy match more exactly and/or there is no variant closer in colouring to the toy anywhere in the show. But sometimes it's not, and this is one such unfortunate case. I don't think I'm being inconsistent here; you may recall that I was hesitant assigning the Caramel toy to Caramel because the cutie mark on the toy matched Creme Brulee's exactly, and that I only ceded that position when it was pointed out that Caramel's cutie mark is also sometimes rotated/aligned that way. The closer two ponies are and the more difficult it is to determine which one matches a toy better, the more important some of the characteristics of the toy become which would normally be glossed over. --Tulipclaymore 22:48, May 24, 2012 (UTC)
I don't think Bluebird is greenish-blue, I think she is just blue. Wind Whistler matches the toy way better, in my opinion. 187.126.118.134 23:18, May 29, 2012 (UTC)
And I think that Wind Whistler is just, and Bluebird Happiness is greenish-blue. Mimi15 12:50, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
I think we should change Wind Whistler into Sassaflash already. The vanilla-maned pony is the real incidental one, so the toy must be intended to represent her. On a side note, G1 Wind Whistler has a Pink mane, so I think that placeholder name should be moved to "Firefly" (the pink-maned recolor of Sassaflash). But let's let the Reddit polls decide that. 201.29.94.236 00:13, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
I do think that it's the incidental one, but to be completely neutral, how frequently the show ponies appear technically shouldn't matter; what should really matter is the difference in looks between the show ponies. In the past, people who've stated their agreement that the toy represents the vanilla-maned pony have mentioned the frequency of appearance but not the difference in looks (sometimes seemingly not noticing the difference in looks, even after I pointed it out), so do you agree that the difference in looks makes the toy more similar to the the lighter-coated vanilla-maned pony than to the darker-coated cerulean-maned pony? 64.118.123.130 05:44, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the vanilla-one is teal and the green-mane one is blue. The toy is much closer to teal than to blue. I think it's definitely the Incidental one (vanilla-maned). So, let's change Wind Whistler into Sassaflash? 201.29.94.236 23:33, May 19, 2012 (UTC)
I've edited my above comparison tables to more clearly indicate the two show ponies' difference in coat color. 64.118.123.130 03:27, May 20, 2012 (UTC)
I want us to give the name "Sassaflash" to the vanilla-maned pegasus just so that there can be more officially-named Incidental Ponies (Bluebird is not Incidental. Just a recolor). 189.105.233.148 23:12, June 4, 2012 (UTC)


Relevant discussion moved here from Forum:PonyComparison:

[...] Regarding the second point, I really don't think this needs to be relitigated. The toy has been announced, and we'll know its name when it comes out at the very latest (but probably sooner). --Tulipclaymore (talk) 17:34, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
The toy was not announced, everything we saw was a bunch of pics of prototypes. That's what I'm concerning: what if it won't come out as a toy, but it was just a prototype? And Bluebird Happiness only got the name of Sassaflash because of the darn green hair. She's BLUE while the toy (and Wind Whistler) is TEAL! Flippy Bear (talk) 17:57, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, the information comes from exactly the same source as all the other Chinese leaks. I see no reason to assume the toy won't be released in the near future (in Europe first, presumably). --Tulipclaymore (talk) 18:05, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
What about the leaked prototypes of brushable Minty and Sweetie Blue we've seen ages ago, and has never showed up officially? What about things like Trixie-with-Fluttershy's cutie mark? Not everything leaked from Taobao is released as an official toy. There is no "information". Just pictures of prototypes being sold.
And even if those de-crystalized blind bags are just prototypes which are never gonna be released as official toys, the fact that the de-crystalized Sassaflash has a yellow mane shows that the Sassaflash blind bag is intended to represent "Wind Whistler". Flippy Bear (talk) 18:44, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm not a toy expert. I don't know what the usual window between leak and release is and when it is exceeded. If you have the numbers to make the canceled prototype hypothesis more probable than the regular toy release hypothesis, make your case with those numbers. Maybe we can come to an agreement about a date by which to change the name if nothing specific is announced.
Though I disagree with the automatic assumption "all the crystal ponies have gotten decrystalised, so the pony's name must be Sassaflash". That's not certain at all. Nor would it be the first time that Hasbro has changed a name between waves. That's exactly the reason why I'm so hesitant about rushing this. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 18:53, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
The wiki choose Bluebird Happines as "the one who looks the most like Sassaflash" just because her mane is green, even though the real mane color of the toy was unknown. That's not certain as well. And the current official name is Sassaflash, so we can use it with no problem until a new official name is used, IF it is used. Flippy Bear (talk) 19:15, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
The toy's mane colour isn't unknown at all. It's bluish-green, much closer to Bluebird Happiness than Wind Whistler. It's not known for certain what it would have been had the mane been properly coloured in; if the new toy gets released and retains the name Sassaflash, then we'll know. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 14:43, August 13, 2012 (UTC)
While it wouldn't be the first time that Hasbro has changed a name between waves, it would be the first time that Hasbro has changed a trademarked name between waves (as I mentioned below). 76.9.91.170 20:26, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
For what it's worth, Sassaflash isn't the only crystal toy who's had a non-crystal version show up; the same has happened with either all or all but one of the ponies who first appeared as crystal toys in mystery pack wave 4.
Furthermore, all of the crystal versions' names gained trademark symbols in the American release of wave 4, and since all three of the mystery packs' name changes so far (Big Macintosh to Big McIntosh, Heartstrings to Lyra Heartstrings, Lulamoon to Trixie Lulamoon) were changed from names that the toys never listed with trademark symbols, it seems unlikely that any of the as-yet-unnamed non-crystal versions would be given names different from the trademarked ones of their crystal versions.
With these points in mind, isn't the situation probable enough for the name Sassaflash to be given to "Wind Whistler" (or at least taken away from "Bluebird Happiness")? 76.9.91.170 18:33, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
Like I've said many times before, the new toy will probably be named Sassaflash. But I don't see any need for urgency. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 18:53, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
One reason for urgency is that if the new toy is named Sassaflash, it means that this wiki is currently using that name for the wrong pony (assuming they don't get merged). A lack of content isn't great, but having inaccurate content is bad. 76.9.91.170 20:26, August 12, 2012 (UTC)
Hm, you may have a point there. I'm switching to "neutral" on the proposal to stop using the name Sassaflash for the time being. [...] --Tulipclaymore (talk) 14:43, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

...[l]ash

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamed...[l]ash (visible parts of name and description match the American release of wave 4's Sassaflash)unknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie marktwo lightning boltstwo lightning bolts yes
Coat colorblue-greenblue-green yes
Mane coloryellowyellow yes
Eye colororangeorange yes
Other
Sassaflash ID S1E1 Sassaflash Mystery Pack Wave6
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunnamed...[l]ash (visible parts of name and description match the American release of wave 4's Sassaflash)unknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie marktwo lightning boltstwo lightning bolts yes
Coat colorblue-greenblue-green yes
Mane colorceruleanyellowno
Eye colororangeorange yes
Other
Bluebird Happiness Sassaflash Mystery Pack Wave6

At last, the clarification from wave 6! Can the name Sassaflash please be transferred from "Bluebird Happiness" to "Wind Whistler" now? 76.9.72.140 21:23, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

I'm all for it. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 00:06, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
Sure. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 21:20, October 3, 2012 (UTC)

Shoeshine

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunknownShoeshineunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie marktwo interlocking horseshoestwo interlocking horseshoes yes
Coat colorblueblue yes
Mane colorperiwinkleunknownunknown
Eye colordark pinkdark pink yes
Other
Shoeshine id Mystery pack 4 Shoeshine
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunknownShoeshineunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie marktwo interlocking horseshoestwo interlocking horseshoes yes
Coat colorblueblue yes
Mane colorvanillaunknownunknown
Eye colordark pinkdark pink yes
Other
Party pony 2 S1E26 Mystery pack 4 Shoeshine

Previous comparison. The only difference between the two ponies from the show is mane color (which the toy doesn't have), but the dress-wearing pony's cutie mark isn't visible from most angles (similarly to "Masquerade" having Twilight Sparkle's cutie mark, possibly as an animation error like with Photo Finish), so I believe that the toy is intended to represent the non-dress-wearing pony. 10.8.56.52 18:26, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

When is seen second pony's and Masquerade's cutie marks? Mimi15 13:37, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
(At least) The Best Night Ever at 12:28 (both dress-wearing ponies), 14:19 (dress-wearing yellow pony), and 15:29 (dress-wearing blue pony). 64.118.123.130 11:35, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Mimi15 16:05, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

...[n]e

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunknown...[n]e (visible parts of name and description match the American release of wave 4's Shoeshine)unknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie marktwo interlocking horseshoestwo interlocking horseshoes yes
Coat colorlight bluelight blue yes
Mane colorperiwinklebluenot quite
Eye colordark pinkdark pink yes
Other
Shoeshine id http://img03.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/T1J_nQXkpjXXXPiEQS_010418.jpg
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
Nameunknown...[n]e (visible parts of name and description match the American release of wave 4's Shoeshine)unknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie marktwo interlocking horseshoestwo interlocking horseshoes yes
Coat colorlight bluelight blue yes
Mane coloryellowblueno
Eye colordark pinkdark pink yes
Other
Party pony 2 S1E26 http://img03.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/T1J_nQXkpjXXXPiEQS_010418.jpg

Another clarification from wave 6. While the mane color isn't an exact match with either of the two, it's definitely a lot closer to the non-dress-wearing pony's than to the dress-wearing pony's. 76.9.72.140 21:23, October 1, 2012 (UTC)

Starbeam Twinkle

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedStarbeam Twinkleunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie markunclear/nonestarsno
Coat colorpinkpink yes
Mane colortwo shades of blueblue-green and bluealmost
Eye colorpurpleblue-purplenot quite/almost (see "other")
Othertoy eye color looks purpler in some photos, probably due to differences in lighting between said photos and the stock images; someone who owns the toy could see what its true eye color is
Happy audience S1E20 http://www.krazykingsoftoys.com/images/detailed/1/My-Little-Pony-Friendship-Is-Magic-Celebration-At-Canterlot-Castle-Starbeam-Twinkle-(Stock).jpg

The pony from the show has no cutie mark in most appearances, but a shot in The Best Night Ever (at 12:38) shows her with one that doesn't appear to match the toy's cutie mark. I'd say that the pony from the show's non-matching cutie mark and/or lack of cutie mark, along with her differences in mane and eye color, make her too different to be considered Starbeam Twinkle. 10.8.56.52 18:26, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's close, but not really close enough. --Tulipclaymore 19:36, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Should a placeholder name poll for her be put up, then? 64.118.123.18 12:17, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
Taken care of. --Tulipclaymore 21:46, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Lemony Gem

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedLemony Gemunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie markthree brilliant-cut gemstonesthree brilliant-cut gemstones yes
Coat coloryellowyellow yes
Mane colorcyanbluealmost
Eye colorcyanbluealmost
Othertoy name seen here; show cutie mark seen here; toy seen closer-up here
Lemony Gem ID S1E03 http://trus.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pTRU1-12749267enh-z6.jpg

The show pony's cutie mark only being visible in one shot makes me wonder if this resemblance was unintentional, but I still think that these should be considered the same pony (after all, Sunny Rays got a couple of toys despite only ever appearing in one or two shots, so it is possible that Lemony Gem was intended to be this pony from the show). 76.9.91.170 14:53, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Show pony's colour seems more greenish to me, but eh, it's close enough I guess. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 18:51, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Since the toy name photo is blurry, here's confirmation (from a fan who bought the Favorite Collection) that the toy's name is indeed Lemony Gem. 76.9.91.170 05:23, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

It is certainly the same pony. By the way, I think she deserves an article for her, and fix the File Image name. Flippy Bear (talk) 00:25, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead and write one for her in your sandbox. Just click that redlink to create it, and then go to work. And if there's enough content, one of the admins (such as myself) will move it into the main namespace for you (you could either copy-paste the content into a new article, or directly move your sandbox (though if it's that second one, I recommend creating a sub-sandbox so your actual sandbox isn't deleted). -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 00:33, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Apple Stars

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedApple Starsunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie marktwo applestwo apples yes
Coat colordark pinkdark pink yes
Mane colorgreengreen yes
Eye colorcerisecerise yes
Othertoy name seen here
Apple Stars opens a window S2E18 18.jpg

I recommend using this name right away. 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Banana Fluff

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedBanana Fluffunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie markunclear, but probably three heartsthree gemstonesprobably not
Coat coloryellowyellow yes
Mane colorpurplelight purplenot quite
Eye colorcerisecerise yes
Othertoy name seen here
Yellow purple unicorn Banana Fluff down-shot. S2E05 20.jpg
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedBanana Fluffunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie markthree gemstonesthree gemstones yes
Coat coloryellowyellow yes
Mane colorlight purplelight purple yes
Eye colorpurplecerisenot quite
Othertoy name seen here
Crystal Clear id S1E23 20.jpg

The reason I think that the darker-maned pony's cutie mark is three hearts is that she's one of multiple ponies in that shot with the kind and mane of one common background pony and the coat color, eye color, and cutie mark of another common background pony, this one being a combination of Amethyst Star and Lemon Hearts. Anyway, while "Banana Fluff" is the darker-maned pony's current placeholder name and we do know that Hasbro tries to utilize names developed by fans, the toy they actually produced is significantly closer in appearance to the lighter-maned pony, so I recommend using the name for the lighter-maned pony (which would mean that the darker-maned pony would need a different placeholder name). 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I think I can make out hints of green in the darker-haired one's cutie mark, which would mean that the cutie mark is indeed Lemon Hearts's. I've already proposed a new name for her on her poll, but I think maybe the poll should be restarted in light of this new information, since there are so many names on there having to do with gems. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 18:42, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

I really think the name "Banana Fluff" belongs to the Amethyst Star recolor. Flippy Bear (talk) 04:12, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

While it might have been Hasbro's intention to match the toy with the pony the fans named "Banana Fluff", unfortunately, they messed up and got the wrong cutie mark, not to mention that the shade of the toy's hair matches the proctor's hair more than it does the Amethyst Star-recolor's. I guess this is one instance where Hasbro's attempted usage of fan-named ponies backfired. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 04:28, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

(Same unregistered user here again) New evidence has surfaced: the website of the importer KAPSIS (a Greek company that's affiliated with Hasbro) is displaying an image that looks like it was used in the making of the wave 7 mystery pack ponies, and this image identifies Banana Fluff as the darker-maned pony. Since this is official promotional material (at least, that's what the four production images on this wiki that were also displayed online by KAPSIS are categorized as) specifying which pony is Banana Fluff, the name should be transferred from the lighter-maned pony to the darker-maned pony, right? (And, assuming that that is the case, should the lighter-maned pony return to her placeholder name "Lonsdaleite" even though it's no longer the highest-scoring nomination on her old poll, or should she get a new poll?) 76.9.68.110 16:17, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I notice those "promotional pictures" call Sweetie Drops "Bon Bon", and yet that's not how the toy turned out. I'm not sure how seriously to take this. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 20:18, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
Well, this isn't so much a promotional image as a toy production image that happened to be released promotionally (like those four bridesmaid images). Sweetie Drops as "Bon Bon" isn't the only non-final name—the others are Misty Fly as "Ice Wind" (which was her profile image name), Lucky Clover as "Lucky/Shamrock", Lily Valley as "Lily", Lilac Links as "Link Pink" (which was her placeholder name), Cherry Fizzy as "Cherry Pop", Berry Dreams as "Blueberry" (which was her placeholder name), Barber Groomsby as "Barber", Banana Bliss as "Banana", Apple Stars as "Green Apple", and Applejack as "Apple Jack"—and some ponies' pictures are the exact same shots as their profile images on this wiki; this seems to confirm the suspicion that Hasbro's toy department uses this wiki not only for naming reference but also for designing reference (and possibly even for selection reference). So, with that explanation for that (the image presumably being from before name finalization), I think that this promotionally-released production image of the 24 ponies for mystery pack wave 7 counts as official confirmation of who Banana Fluff is. 76.9.68.110 00:19, February 12, 2013 (UTC) 76.9.68.110 00:44, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
The fact remains that they got her cutie mark wrong. And her mane more closely matches the teacher pony's. I say we keep "Banana Fluff" where she is and let this be a lesson to Hasbro's toy department. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 03:33, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
Banana Fluff's eye color exactly matches the spectator pony's, while none of the wave 7 ponies have eye color differences as major as the difference between Banana Fluff's and the teacher pony's. Banana Fluff's mane is still close enough to match the spectator pony's; furthermore, on the collector card it's a bit darker, similarly to how fellow wave 7 pony Berry Dreams has a toy showing a less-accurate lighter mane but a collector card showing a more-accurate darker mane. And the cutie marks are similar-looking (three brilliant-cut blue gemstones in an inverted triangle pattern vs. two blue hearts and one green heart in an inverted triangle pattern), so thanks to the production image, this situation could be treated like Merry May's. 76.9.89.107 05:19, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
And on the flip side, we have collector cards like Shoeshine's and Lyra Heartstrings's. On the eye color matching the spectator pony, I suppose there's that versus the cutie mark, one of which goes to either of the ponies in question, so it sort of cancels out. I'll admit you have a point about Merry May, though. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 22:53, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
Well, I was specifically bringing up a collector card from the same wave as Banana Fluff, since it'd presumably be the most closely related. (On a side note, since you brought up Lyra Heartstrings, I should point out that the released versions of those two collector cards turned out to use slightly different mane-and-tail colorations than in the promotional photos of them. Not sure if that helps or hurts my case for Banana Fluff, but I felt I should clarify.) 76.9.73.171 23:15, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
That's very interesting! I Symbol strong support vote Strongly support that the toy represents the spectator pony, now that we've got this evidence. And he's right, Merry May's cutie mark in the toyline is composed of different objects from the show, but they're still considered the same pony because the cutie marks are alike. The spectator pony's cutie mark can easily be mistaken as being three gems, since she's basically Amethyst Star with a yellow coat. And, as the anon said, there is the collector card that shows Banana Fluff's mane color matching the spectator pony's better, and the fact that their eye colors match better than the professor. Flippy Bear (talk) 20:32, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
I support keeping Banana Fluff where it is currently and replacing Merry May's name with a new placeholder name in light of this information. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 22:53, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
I don't really have the time to look at the whole Banana Fluff situation, but for the record: I have always been opposed to identifying the toy Merry May with "Flora" because of the non-matching cutie marks. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 11:44, February 13, 2013 (UTC)
Why would this information change anything about Merry May? This only goes to show that they use images and names from the list in the production of their blind bags, and that modifications may occur during the production resulting in slight product difference (we've been even told that by a Hasbro employee). So we see - with both Banana Fluff to the spectator pony and Merry May to "Flora" - that they are the same pony, completely matching in color palette and species, but the exact appearance of their cutie marks got changed in production. Flippy Bear (talk) 00:10, February 14, 2013 (UTC)
You know, I was the one who got that email. But fine, I guess I'll go with calling the pony Banana Fluff (beats calling her Golden Gem) as long as the different cutie marks are mentioned in her entry. I suppose this means that a placeholder name poll can be set up for the proctor pony. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 05:55, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I agree. Flippy Bear (talk) 18:09, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Cherry Fizzy

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedCherry Fizzyunknown
Sexmalemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie marktwo cherriestwo cherries yes
Coat colortantan yes
Mane colordark graydark gray yes
Eye colorgreengreen yes
Othertoy name seen here
Cherry Fizzy id 1.jpg

Name already got added to the List. I recommend continuing to use it. 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Lilac Links

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedLilac Linksunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie marktwo horseshoestwo horseshoes yes
Coat colordark pinkdark pink yes
Mane colorperiwinkleperiwinkle yes
Eye colorcerisepinknot quite
Othertoy name seen here
Lilac Links id 1.jpg

Name already got added to the List. I recommend continuing to use it. 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Lily Valley

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedLily Valleyunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markthree liliesthree lilies yes
Coat colorpinkpink yes
Mane coloryellowyellow yes
Eye coloryellowyellow yes
Othertoy name seen here
Lily 17.jpg

Name already got added to the list, but the Daisy, Lily, and Rose article still needs renaming. 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Roseluck, Lily Valley, and have they screwed up Daisy's name yet? Ugh. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 20:20, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
Flower Wishes, I believe. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 20:50, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
Roseluck and Lily Valley are pretty OK. Flower Wishes is just name recycling from G3. 201.4.19.199 22:37, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Lucky Clover

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedLucky Cloverunknown
Sexmalemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markthree cloversthree clovers yes
Coat colorgraygray yes
Mane colordark graydark gray yes
Eye colorblueblue yes
Othertoy name seen here
Lucky closeup S1E11 7.jpg

Name already got added to his article and the List. I recommend continuing to use it. 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Misty Fly

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedMisty Flyunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie markunknownunknownunknown
Coat coloryellowyellow yes
Mane colorlight bluelight blue yes
Eye colorunknownunknownunknown
Othertoy name seen here
Misty Fly id S1E26 4.jpg

Eye color and cutie mark unknown, but the Wonderbolts flight suit makes it safe to assume that these are the same pony. I recommend using this name right away. 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Her placeholder name is Misty, right? I suppose they couldn't have used that because of the one in Pokémon or something? ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 20:20, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Soarin/Soarin'

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameSoarin(')Soarin on packaging, Spitfire on collector card (but Spitfire's own collector card says Soarin)sometimes
Sexmalemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie markwinged lightning boltunknownunknown
Coat colorwhitewhite yes
Mane colordark bluedark graynot quite
Eye colorgreenunknownunknown
Othertoy names seen here
Soarin' id S1E26 2.jpg

The toy uses the same mold as the three female Wonderbolt toys, but bears the winged lightning bolt symbol of the male Wonderbolts rather than the plain lightning bolt symbol of the female Wonderbolts. Anyway, while "Soarin'" is used by his and Spitfire's Hasbro-licensed trading card, "Soarin" is now used both by this first-party Hasbro toy and by the Hasbro-licensed mobile game, and since Hasbro material takes precedence over the crew, "Soarin" is now more official than "Soarin'", right? 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

I suppose they (and our policies) don't care about the creator's intentions or grammatical rules? ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 20:20, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
How something is is more important than how a creator wanted it to be, and names aren't always grammatically correct. 64.118.122.93 06:18, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
I hadn't been in a hurry before because I wasn't 100% sure about there being no "'" between "SOARIN" and "™", but now that the collector card has shown the lack of apostrophe clearly, when can the change be made? 76.9.70.164 21:24, December 20, 2012 (UTC)
Lol at the switch...facehoof. I'll go make the changes now. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 06:34, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Sweetie Drops/Bon Bon

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedSweetie Dropsunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markthree bowsthree bows yes
Coat colorcreamcream yes
Mane colordark blue with pinkdark blue with pink yes
Eye colorblueblue yes
Othertoy name seen here, collector card seen here
Sweetie Drops ID S1E01 http://i50.tinypic.com/11qo6t2.jpg

First-party Hasbro material is more official than Hasbro-licensed material such as the mobile game, so "Sweetie Drops" takes precedence over "Bon Bon", right? 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

This sucks, I don't want another Lyra incident. Let's wait until the toy is out before changing the title of the article. –Throwy 18:10, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
I don't think that a wiki should delay the use of official information for the sake of keeping fans happy. Since it isn't a stock photo and the packaging shows the names with trademark symbols, I doubt that the eventual release will give her a different name than in this leak. 64.118.122.93 06:18, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with 64. The longer we delay in letting the more official name be known, the worse it gets as new fans may come to know and love the pony as "Bon Bon". --Pikmanipulator (talk) 21:29, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Gosh these toys are dumb. Just in order to avoid this stupidity I'd argue that that is clearly an Applejack recolor and thus of no relation to Bon Bon. Furthermore, the color alternation of her tail is not the same as Bon Bon's, as can be seen here. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 20:20, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
I second that motion. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 20:50, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
Which name an individual personally prefers doesn't matter for this; if the toy name was "Bon Bon" and the game name was "Sweetie Drops", I'd still support using the toy name, but would you still be against using the toy name? Anyway, the "that's just a recolor" argument holds no water whatsoever; the mystery pack designs of ponies generally are recolors, some of which (such as Apple Fritter, Blossomforth, Caramel Apple, Cheerilee, Cherry Berry, Fluttershy, Golden Harvest, Lyra Heartstrings, Uncle Mosely Orange, and Trixie Lulamoon) are even confirmed to be the same ponies as in the show (by being named in the show and/or in merchandise that uses their show designs). As for the order of the mane/tail colors, that doesn't disprove it being the same pony (compare with Rainbow Dash); they're still all the same colors (which is more than can be said about Princess Luna). 64.118.122.93 06:18, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
I completely disagree with Bobogoobo, the toy is as close to the show as it gets - same coat, same mane colors (even if it's missing one streak), same eye color, same cutie mark, same pony type. It doesn't get any closer than this other than collectible vinyl toys, and even then they miscolor the mane. This is clearly the "same" pony. I Symbol strong support vote Strongly support rename and move-protect to admin level. –Throwy 07:10, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
I completely agree. I had a strong feeling that "Bon Bon" was a name that Hasbro had lost the rights to, and sure enough, they aren't using it. (Something tells me that Gameloft used the fan name without running it through Hasbro's licensing department first.) In any case, Hasbro is the ultimate authority over My Little Pony, not Gameloft, so what name they end up using stays. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 04:44, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
I think we should let "Bon Bon" be her main name, and let "Sweetie Drops" as her secondary name, because she is pictured with this name more properly at the game, opposed to the usual vector recolors in the collector cards of the toys, even to the point of being called "Bon Bon" out loud in the voices of both Spike and Twilight Sparkle. (Also, because we know Hasbro does what it can to canonize fanon names, and that it wouldn't be likely to they trademark "Bon Bon", so something tells me they intentionally drew attention to her name in the game so that they wouldn't feel the necessity to trademark "Bon Bon" for the toys.) 201.4.19.199 13:25, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
Believe me, as much as I'd like to say I agree with that (and trust me, I do; I far prefer "Bon Bon" to "Sweetie Drops"), that just rings false to me. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 22:06, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
I don't like the name "Sweetie Drops", but if Hasbro has decided to use it, Hasbro has decided to use it. At least this time "Bon Bon" can remain in the article (and even in the lead section), unlike with Lyra way back when. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 21:12, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
Exactly; that's exactly what I thought about when I realized it wouldn't be possible to have another incident on the magnitude of the whole "Lyra Heartstrings" thing. At least when (or if, though I'm pretty sure it's a "when") people complain that the title of the article isn't "Bon Bon", we can point out the fact that "Bon Bon", due to being in the game, is also an official name. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 22:06, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, but we're not gonna change every instance of "Bon Bon" in the wiki ever into "Sweetie Drops", are we? 201.4.19.199 22:51, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
I'd assume that it would, except when what's written is about the mobile game, G1 Bon Bon, or an actual bon bon, and also with the exception of personal pages and discussion statements. 64.118.122.93 06:46, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
I suggest giving a bot the task of replacing every instance of "Bon Bon" (quotations included) with Sweetie Drops. All instances of "Bon Bon" should simply be references to the character in articles other than her own. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 22:04, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
I suggest having the Sweetie Drops article's lead section begin "Sweetie Drops or Bon Bon is an Earth pony..." (like with the DJ Pon-3 article's lead section). 64.118.122.93 06:46, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Looks like the majority agrees to the name change. So when is it going to happen? --Pikmanipulator (talk) 18:06, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
I've already made a copy of the article with the appropriate changes, so I could edit the article myself, but I'd need an admin to protect it afterward. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 02:08, November 26, 2012 (UTC)
So do I have an "OK"? --Pikmanipulator (talk) 01:38, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
Well, four days without a "yes" or "no", so I tried to do it anyway, and sure enough, I was stopped. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 00:05, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
As much as it'd follow the Wiki rules—there are no reliable official sources backing up the name "Bon Bon" because all such sources are fan-made, therefore "Bon Bon" has always been a "placeholder" for until the event that an acknowledgedly reliable source gives her an "official" name—if you really go ahead, replace every single instance of "Bon Bon" on this Wiki with "Sweetie Drops", pretend that there has never been the name "Bon Bon" (because no sources defined by Wiki rules as reliable can doubtlessly prove it), lock all "Sweetie Drops" pages to be safe and declare the use of "Bon Bon" anywhere outside of the commentaries a case of vandalism leading to the immediate ban of the editor, this will inevitably lead to a new Lyra situation, but this time at a much larger magnitude as the Bronydom has grown by several multitudes since Wave 3 came out. In fact, when I heard about "Sweetie Drops", I already envisioned a severe clash between the MLP:FiM Wiki and tens of thousands of Bronies who have been calling her "Bon Bon" ever since they learned about her, a clash strong enough to possibly shatter either the foundations of the Wiki's reliability rules themselves or the MLP:FiM Wiki's credibility and reliability as a source of information. There are many many Bronies out there who are not willing to give up the name "Bon Bon" just because one wiki says so. By the way, I myself oppose a total and radical renaming and elimination of "Bon Bon", too. --Pulse Wave (talk) 23:53, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
What? "Bon Bon" is used by the mobile game, so that name and "Sweetie Drops" are both official names; Hasbro's own one just takes precedence over the Hasbro-licensed one. As mentioned above, both names belong in her article's lead section, and I'd think that "Bon Bon" would still be used when writing about the mobile game. 64.118.122.93 00:20, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

This is stupid. $50 says Hasbro will make a toy called "Bon Bon" in the future and we'll go in circles like we did with Lyra. Not to mention that the game came out before the toy. So we'll have to stick with Bon Bon. It's getting a bit boring being such rule-junkies when it comes to stuff like this, we don't need to look like toffs constantly when it comes to naming ponies. We can easily mention Sweetie Drops in the article under the merchandise section, we have no genuine need to trample on a name that's been used for over 2 years and everyone's happy with just to comply with a rule that doesn't affect the quality of the site. Instead of looking at this from a robotic point of view that "X article MUST be named Y just because Y is used on a surprise bag toy" look at it from a practical point of view. There's really no need to destroy a name that's been used for over 2 years now just to concede to a plastic toy that was probably named in less than 10 seconds flat. It really seems so pointless and dissuasive to me.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  00:03, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hasbro has recently tried to use fan names when possible. A look at the toys from Bon Bon's blind bag wave makes that pretty clear: in many cases, they simply slapped a second name to a previously existing fan name. They didn't with Bon Bon. One reason may very well be that Bon Bon's among the G1 trademarks trademarks that Hasbro "lost" and can't use again, for whatever reason. So I wouldn't be so sure that a "Bon Bon Sweetie Drops" toy is forthcoming.
And in any case what happens in the future is irrelevant for the present. It's long-standing practice and policy that merchandise which comes directly from Hasbro holds more weight than any other merchandise. That includes the game, which was not developed in-house. That Bon Bon is an old and widely-used fan name doesn't matter; so were "Linky" and "Twinkle" and "Sparkler" and "Colgate". --Tulipclaymore (talk) 00:42, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
I didn't mention I liked what we did with their articles. There's no practical reason for making the change, the only reason to do it is to stick to a policy which you just said. That's not good enough to make such a change.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  00:48, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
What are you talking about? It's a policy, and the policy reflects consensus. Procedure has been followed, the change has been discussed, and now it needs to be carried out. If you don't like the policy, start a discussion about it and see if consensus has changed, but holding up the renaming because you don't feel like following the rules you supported and were fine with a year ago is ridiculous. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 01:06, November 30, 2012 (UTC)
My point was that it's just impractical and needs more thought than just an uncontrolled reflex reaction to a policy. But since the consensus here is to move the page, the page has been moved. What I said isn't relevant any more which is why I crossed it out.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  01:27, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion closed - Page has been moved.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  01:27, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

Berry Dreams

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedBerry Dreamsunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markgrapes with strawberrygrapes with strawberry yes
Coat colorblueblue yes
Mane colortandark yellownot quite
Eye colorcerisecerise yes
Othertoy name seen here and here
Berry Dreams ID S1E13 0.jpg

I would recommend using this name right away, except that I'm not quite sure what all of it is. It almost looks like "Berry Dreams", but the top of the first letter looks like it might be too thin for a B... 64.118.122.93 04:43, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Found another image; with what can be made out between the two images, I think it's safe to use the name "Berry Dreams" on the List. 64.118.122.93 06:46, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

They barely look alike? they're just recolors, and on top of that, we have trading cards that list her name as Berry Punch? Land of Confusion Disturbed_Guy_by_Djman5000.pngDiscord Prevails "We're nice grandmas" - grandma 10:19, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
They do look like each other. This already confirmed the identity of Berry Dreams, and the pony that Enterplay's trading cards (which Hasbro's own merchandise takes precedence over anyway) list as Berry Punch is Berryshine, not Berry Dreams. (7)6(four) (talk) 11:27, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ribbon Wishes

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunknownRibbon Wishesunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie markunknown, shown as a scroll in one instancea star-topped wand with three streaks whirling around itunknown, maybe not
Coat colorpinkpink yes
Mane colorlight blue with an even paler streaklight blue and indigoyes, not including the toy's indigo streak
Eye colorpurplecerisenot really
Other
Royal Ribbon id S01E20 Ribbon wishes

I honestly can't tell if these two are meant to be the same character or not. Sure, Royal Ribbon's cutie mark appears as a scroll in one instance, but in others her flank is blank, so it might have just been an animation thing. Going by the looks of the toy, the differences seem relatively minor and it could realistically be Royal Ribbon, but then again it could also be another random pony that Hasbro has made up. Maybe in the future, if the animators put Ribbon Wishes's cutie mark on Royal Ribbon in the show, we'll know for certain, but for now, I can't comfortably make a decision. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 02:43, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

For what it's worth, Ribbon Wishes was previously a G3 pony. 64.118.111.148 16:53, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
I think that makes it less likely that Royal Ribbon is Ribbon Wishes, then. Most of the incidental ponies (with exceptions like Flower Wishes, Roseluck, and Blossomforth) don't seem to be mere recyclings from G3. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 03:56, December 2, 2012 (UTC)


Sweetie Blue

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameCup CakeSweetie Blueno
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markthree cupcakesa cupcake yes
Coat colorblueblue yes
Mane colordark pinkdark pink yes
Eye colormagentagreen (purple on the european card)no
OtherThe vector on the European Collector Card makes them even more alike
Mrs. Cake greeting ID S1E25 http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/f/f0/Blind-sweetie-blue.jpg

First, there is the fact that Cup Cake is a bit older than most toy ponies so far. But then, Hasbro has already made Twilight Velvet, who is older as well. Then there is the cupcake cutie mark. It's three cupcakes in the show, but only one in the toy. But this happens with other ponies, given the size of the blind bags (compare with toy-exclusive Lily Blossom. Then, there is the eye color, which isn't much of a big issue, as it happens often, evetually getting "fixed" with the release of a brushable toy (Cherry Berry was green, before getting fixed to purple. And Flower Wishes changed to a closer shade of green). And finally, I'd like to point out that the color scheme of the vector on the European Collector Card is very alike to Cup Cake's color scheme (including the cupcake cutie mark being pink, and the eye color being purple, which is closer than green). And there is no previous-generation pony named "Sweetie Blue". So, I'm convinced that they were meant to be the same. Flippy Bear (talk) 18:41, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

There is a leaked brushable toy that appears to be Sweetie Blue also with green eyes, though it was never seen packaged, so given that and how long ago it was leaked, it may not be planned to be officially released. As for the collector cards, Sweetie Blue's eyes are still purple on the back of the North American collector card, and for some reason, that version of the card makes her coat color greener. 64.118.126.19 19:22, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain that one of these ponies was based on the other, and given that both emerged so early in production, it's probably safe to say it was one of those deals where the production of the toy was finished before the show character was shown, or whatnot. Like Nayuki said, the cartoon and toys are done separately (particularly back then), so it would likely be a divergence of development from the design stage onward. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 03:16, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Update: Assuming this toy has an official name, that'll probably help clarify things here. 64.118.113.125 18:15, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hey... Awesome! Very neat. It looks more like Cup Cake, now. Looks like they really care a bit more, now. I hope that they try to make it clear it's Cup Cake. Flippy Bear (talk) 01:50, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
Further update: A new mini-figure too, though its eyes are blue (hopefully it'll be officially released with a corrected eye color). I'm guessing it's from one of the two upcoming Deluxe Miniature Collection sets announced for fall 2013 (the one that'll include Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake, since Hasbro already revealed the other one). 64.118.113.125 06:33, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
An official name: Mrs. Dazzle Cake. 76.9.90.46 13:56, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

Comet Tail

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameUnknownComet Tailunknown
Sexmalemale yes
KindUnicornUnicorn yes
Cutie markShooting starShooting star yes
Coat coloryellowyellow yes
Mane colordark blueblue yes
Eye colorblueblue yes
OtherYet another ascended fan nickname
Comet Tail S2E15 http://24.media.tumblr.com/ce993ff79cafc26eab9e3a5ddfc7c03a/tumblr_mj72wyoWBv1qlmxj1o1_500.jpg

Looks like we have another canonize placeholder name. Since it's proven that Hasbro uses the List in the selection of the toys, I think we can mark his name as official already. But if you prefer to wait for a better photo of the toy... Flippy Bear (talk) 18:45, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

A better picture will probably confirm your conclusion, but it can't hurt to wait. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 20:34, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
Tesco direct has a better picture. It's blurry, but it shows that the same cutie mark is very possible, so since we know that Hasbro uses this wiki for their toys (as Flippy Bear mentioned), I'm in favor of using "Comet Tail" as an official name already. 76.9.87.183 02:25, March 4, 2013 (UTC)
More evidence for this toy representing that character: Hasbro previously used the name Comet Tail for a G3 Earth pony mare toy, so it seems unlikely that they'd turn around and give that name to a G4 unicorn stallion toy unless it's supposed to be the show character fan-named Comet Tail. 76.9.87.183 07:51, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Here, we have a better picture now. Can we say it's his official name now? Flippy Bear (talk) 21:08, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

And here's another better picture, showing the same cutie mark on the toy as well as on the collector card. I'd definitely call this confirmed. 76.9.87.183 03:56, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I think so. Flippy Bear (talk) 21:48, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
Sure. --Tulipclaymore (talk) 00:02, March 8, 2013 (UTC)
Done, and added him to Forum:No-longer-needed placeholder name polls. 76.9.87.183 01:17, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

"Prism Strider" mare Prism Glider

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedPrism Gliderunknown
Sexmalefemaleno
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie markrainbow (purple/orange/yellow)rainbow (purple/orange/yellow) yes
Coat colorlight bluelight blue yes
Mane colorbluish whitebluish white yes
Eye colorblue-greenblue-green yes
Other
Prism Glider ID S2E22 http://i.ebayimg.com/$(KGrHqR,!rgFGyORlmLJBRy,YJ60cw~~60_57.JPG

(I put "no" for "sex-similar" in the ShowToyComparison template, but in this case it'll only display "yes" for some reason. Anyway,) This is like what happened to Soarin: with the apparent lack of a male Pegasus toy mold, a Pegasus stallion's toy is made using a Pegasus mare toy mold. Thus, despite the apparent gender difference, I think that the entire rest of the appearance matching indicates that these are the same pony. 64.118.119.131 18:22, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

The ifeq statement for sex-similar was set to use whatever was filled in for kind-similar if it wasn't equal to yes, but I fixed it, as can be seen in this edit. As for the pony, I agree, definitely looks similar enough to be called the same pony.-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png  00:20, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, definitely enough similarity there I think. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 05:45, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
I agree. Flippy Bear (talk) 22:43, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Multiple agreements and no disagreements, so I've now edited his List entry to specify that the toy is of him rather than just that it resembles him. (7)6(four) (talk) 23:06, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Update: images here show the toy having the name Prism Glider. Should we assume that it's meant to be him and they didn't have the mold and therefore make Prism Glider his official name (it does kinda make more sense...), or is two differences too many? ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 19:58, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Names differing from placeholder names isn't counted as an official difference; after the previous discussion above, pretty much all that was left was to give him his then-unknown official name, so I've gone ahead and done that now. (7)6(four) (talk) 09:32, September 12, 2013 (UTC)

Other blind bag wave 9 ponies

Post with images (the first one is clearer but the colors on the last one seem more accurate). Some of these will need to wait until we get more detailed/closer images (especially cutie marks), so I just filled in what I could tell just to get these established. I give regulars of this page permission to edit these tables with new information. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 19:58, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Edited these tables with more information. Also, despite that Equestria Daily post only mentioning "a random imgur album" as the source, that source in turn has the actual source (a Taobao listing, by a seller who's also listed other not-yet-released toys). (7)6(four) (talk) 09:32, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedNurse Snowheartunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindEarthEarth yes
Cutie markwhite cross with a heart in each cornerwhite cross with a heart in each corner yes
Coat colorpale yellowyellow yes
Mane color yes
Eye colorgreengreen yes
Otherboth wear a nurse's cap
Nurse Snowheart ID S2E16 http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/6/6/1/1/6/6/webimg/681110751_o.jpg

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedTropical Stormunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie markthree raindropsthree raindrops yes
Coat colorgreenishgreenish yes
Mane colorpinkpink yes
Eye colorunknownorangeunknown
Other
Tropical Storm ID S1E11 http://i.ebayimg.com/$T2eC16V,!)!E9s2fB+2)BRfsl(vzk!~~60_57.JPG

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedSprinkle Medleyunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
KindPegasusPegasus yes
Cutie markraining cloudraining cloud yes
Coat colorblueishblueish yes
Mane colorblue-greenblue-green yes
Eye colorblueblue yes
Other
Sprinkle Medley ID S1E11 http://i.ebayimg.com/%24(KGrHqF,!lMFG7gyrHKYBRy,WHJPOg~~60_57.JPG

Also, several entries on the list of ponies claim leaked figures, which I assume are these (since the entries don't even link to images, nor were they compared on here). Here's a list of them, since these are harder to compare and match up for sure (do these later waves still have some non-show ponies?) without clearer images. "Honeysuckle" claims Honey Rays, "Emerald" claims Green Jewel, "Apple Croquette" claims Lavender Fritter, "Mint Cupcake" claims Apple Honey, "Candylicious" claims Grape Delight. The above three tables are also claimed by the entries I linked them to. Other claims that don't seem to be in this wave: "Silver Script", "Strawberry Sunrise". Apparently Berry Punch is called Berryshine again; this would seem to prove that the green eyed unicorn called Berryshine is Berry Punch, since the evidence on the page currently doesn't seem to be enough. Should she be renamed? Sorry if I did any of this incorrectly, haven't really done the toys before and the weird molds make it hard to compare. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 19:58, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

A lot of the claims of leaked figures were added by me after I found out about them; these are indeed most of them, and since the list of ponies already treated them as the same ponies, I've now gone ahead and updated their names (and since you said "the entries don't even link to images" I've added image links, which I hadn't added before in order to avoid excessive external links; also, the reason that Prism Glider was the only one I had compared on here is that others matched clearly enough to probably not need comparing on here). (Re: "do these later waves still have some non-show ponies?": this ninth wave is the first one that doesn't, though previous waves came close.) "Silver Script" and "Strawberry Sunrise" are indeed not in this wave, so they still have no known official names. Last but not least, I've now added Template:Move (with more image links) to the Berry Punch and Medley articles, which should definitely be renamed; Berryshine/Berry Punch is now in pretty much the same position as Sweetie Drops/Bon Bon, and the closest thing Sprinkle Medley had to an official name before was "Rainycloud" (which the wiki ended up not using then anyway). (7)6(four) (talk) 09:32, September 12, 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I went ahead and moved Medley to Sprinkle Medley (since the former was just a placeholder name anyway) but I'm hesitant to move Berry Punch (since that's an official name) without some discussion (though if any other admins decide to move it, I won't stop you).-- Undisguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.pngJonny Manztalkcontribse-mailedit count 23:57, September 12, 2013 (UTC)Disguised_Nyx_by_AibotNya.png 
I support the move from Berry Punch to Berryshine. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 04:10, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarifications. Once this wave is released the images won't really be necessary (I assume toys will also mention it), I just was looking for some proof since it didn't seem confirmed from the EqD post. I support renaming Berry Punch - I'm not sure what's up with the earlier figure, but the second one is her, so that name would take precedence. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 03:00, September 13, 2013 (UTC)

Does this mean the process of moving "Berry Punch" to "Berryshine" is now at its beginning? (7)6(four) (talk) 21:02, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

That renaming was my recommendation, under the assumption that the move was inevitable. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 21:55, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
So... Is no more action going to be taken? Am I going to have be the one who makes the changes again? --Pikmanipulator (talk) 03:32, September 28, 2013 (UTC)
Well, I've gone and written up a copy of the article the way I think it should be, but I'd like an admin's permission before I make the actual edit. --Pikmanipulator (talk) 01:20, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

The Berryshine move has been done for around a week and a half now, but Category:Berry Punch images still needs to be renamed. (7)6(four) (talk) 13:35, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Would've been noticed faster on the bot to-do list. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 40px-Lyra_speaks_S2E25.png 19:17, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Star Dreams

Attribute Show Toy Similar?
NameunnamedStar Dreamsunknown
Sexfemalefemale yes
Kindunicornunicorn yes
Cutie marksomethingnoneno/unknown
Coat colorpinkpink yes
Mane colortwo tones of blueblue, purple, and pink (toy)/two tones of blue (packaging artwork)partially (toy)/yes (packaging artwork)
Eye colorblueblue yes
Otherpackaging artwork and use of name
Three's A Crowd UUM1 ID S4E20 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81FU+UwLDwL.jpg

Since the toy (at least version one of two) came first (which would make this a case similar to those of Blossomforth and Cherry Spices), some show crew member(s) should know whether or not this unicorn filly in Three's A Crowd, Leap of Faith, and Equestria Games is intended to be Star Dreams; hopefully, such confirmation or disconfirmation shall be obtained. (7)6(four) (talk) 04:00, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

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