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Lifespan of Dragons

  • In Dragonshy, it is mentioned the dragon is taking a 100 year nap. Obviously, this means that dragons are very long lived. But is it only winged dragons? What about wingless dragons, like Spike? I think it doesn't matter, personally, but it could. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 07:09, February 15, 2012 (UTC)


  • I've also wondered if Spike will grow wings when he grows up. I certainly think it's possible, but if what we saw in Secret of My Excess holds true, he won't. Of course, that's assuming that getting greedy is the only way for dragons to grow; they could always just age naturally, at a much slower rate than the ponies. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 07:09, February 15, 2012 (UTC)


  • I got to wondering what of spike's parents. I mean there should be some reason that Celestia sent spike with twilight to ponyville, where she should meet the other mane 6 all embracing a different element. His magic fire breath also adds to the question. What is special about spike where Celestia sent him to be cared for raised in a kind loving place teaching him goodness. Is there something that Celestia wants to avoid when he grows up? --Daikari 05:10, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
  • I hope it turns out that he become the leader of the Dragon race and his friendship with the ponies in Ponyville creates peace between them, -- Marc
    • Hah, well, this kind of happened now. Spike very briefly became leader, handed the role to someone who is learning friendship and commanded the dragons to make peace with ponies. GoldenLine (talk) 23:28, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Who and Where are Spike's biological parents?

I know this will probably never be answered on the show, but where did Spike come from? We know that Twilight hatched Spike and that he was raised in Canterlot. However, what of Spike's parents and more specifically, how did Celestia get a hold of him?

I suspected that perhaps Celestia has a huge supply of dragon eggs, perhaps taken as part of a dragon adoption programs, but if we think about it, there are no more civilized dragons besides Spike. Think about it, how come Spike is the only dragon who is assimilated into pony society, why isn’t there an entire class of dragons who are assimilated into pony civilization? Specifically, we know from secret of my excess that Ponies know next to nothing about dragon anatomy and culture. There clearly exist obviously assimilated donkeys, mules, and griffins that are seen as subjects of Celestia. However, we see from “Dragon Quest” that dragons do not consider themselves subjects of Princess Celestia, when Spike coughs up a letter that teenage dragons mock him for being “pen pals with a namby pamby pony princess!”

Now the question is, why did Celestia even have Spike's egg? If dragons and ponies distrust each other, why would Spike's parents hand him over (if that what's happened?)

''Note: What follows next is my own theory because there is no evidence to prove or disprove it.

My theory is that the egg was found in the woods by some patrolling guardsmen, who took it back to Celestia after finding it, for given the natural antipathy between dragons and ponies, it seems highly unlikely that any dragon would have given the to Celestia, even if they were not ready for a child. Did Celestia capture an egg from a dragon nest? This also seems unlikely given her nature.

Spike is one of my favorite characters of the show, specifically, his questions of longing for an identity and being stuck in the middle of a society is a very brilliant lesson about coming of age. It’s a struggle that I think that many Bronies can relate to, especially those who are in their teenage years through early 20’s. In shaking up things a little bit by introducing at least the concept of Spike’s biological parents, this would be a killer episode as it would surly help explore and develop Spike as a character, something that the show did very well in the 1st and 2nd seasons, but regrettably was not explored to a great extent in season 3. It’s not like they didn’t have the opportunity with a short season, cause they did have the two Spike episodes, but regrettably they didn’t do much in the way of developing Spike’s character or exploring his background, they were more just comical episodes in which Spike made a fool of himself. This is not to say it wasn’t interesting to see Spike’s search for an identity as a dragon through his concept as a “dragon code” of undying loyalty, yet still, I feel the episode was severely undeveloped.

So what are your thoughts my fellow Bronies? I am not the only one who has postulated about the origins of Spike. What have you speculated, and specifically, what would you like to see in terms of a canonical explation?—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

I agree 100%! This is something that needs to be done, brah! Soon, very soon! Cathy did say in the last Comic-Con panel that she wants Spike to meet his mother! Now that we know Cathy is on board with it, it'll eventually happen! --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 22:32, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
Not necessarily; I like the idea of an episode on Spike's parents, but just because Cathy is on board with it doesn't mean that Hasbro/Hasbro Studios/the powers that be at Hasbro will do it. It's all a matter of if they want to take that route, if they think enough fans want it, and/or if they think such a move will allow them to sell merchandise or attract viewers.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 02:17, October 5, 2017 (UTC)
They don't have to do it if they don't want to. But I hope they realize that not doing it would be a very dumb move for the show staff to make. It would rupture an important character's story arc by a landslide. Same would apply for Scoots. But that said, it's the writers' choice, if they wanna ruin their characters' stories, by all means! ;) --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 02:31, October 5, 2017 (UTC)
"Rupture" and "ruin" seem a bit strong-we're nearly a full seven seasons into the show with no direct mention of Spike or Scootaloo's parents and the shows shows no signs of stopping. Yes, those stories would be really cool, but I wouldn't necessarily say that the characters are diminished by not having them. --Kilmarnock228 (talk) 02:53, October 5, 2017 (UTC)

Spike and Starlight need an episode together

Didn't we all enjoy the chemistry between the two in The Crystalling? I mean it looked like the two had a ton of potential to be closer friends, like Starlight would be like a second Twilight to Spike! Spike does give her advice and help her out just like he does with Twilight, but I wanna see more of their friendship, with them working together to solve a friendship problem between themselves, with a mutual friend, or even both get sent on a friendship mission together!

These two have a ton in common! Both close with Twilight, both main characters but not Mane Six, both had a hard time fitting in before, both are good friends with Thorax and Discord, and I can go on! That friendship spark I saw in the season 6 premiere, it wasn't really brought up that much in the series after that. They did interact from time to time, but it was more of an interaction like they would give to the rest of the Mane Six, and I thought they'd be closer, like family. Maybe it is like that, and I just don't see it, but regardless, I wanna see these two have an episode together before the series is done! This is my most-wanted pairing!

Alot of the fandom is on board with this as well! I'm seeing positive reactions to wanting to see more Spike/Starlight moments on the show! It would be such a wasted opportunity to not do this! --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 14:27, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

A full-on Spike and Starlight episode would be quite interesting, especially if they could somehow work it into introducing Spike's family/origins into the series more fully. Of course, it would also be kind of nice to see one-on-one Spike episodes with Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, and Rainbow Dash as well; he's had plenty of interaction and Twilight and Rarity and at least one episode with Applejack, but the other three havn't really interacted with him much or at all on a solo basis that I can think of. It'll be interesting to see whether the upcoming deal with Spike and Zecora getting attacked by a Roc is going to be part of a full episode centering on just the two of them; if it is, a Spike/Starlight episode certainly seems plausible.
Admittedly, your use of the word pairing made me shudder a bit; personally I find Spike's tendency to develop crushes on unicorns rather weird.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:41, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
I do not ship Spike and Starlight, so that's not what I meant by pairing! :P Though like I said, it would be nice seeing them as closer friends! They probably are, but the series just doesn't show it alot. That's why I'd love to see an episode featuring the two, and you're right Spike could use some episodes with the Remane Three, or even the CMCs! But Starlight's on the top of my list right now, as the two seem to have alot of chemistry, and in my opinion, seems to be the most likely pairing they'll give Spike that's not Twilight or Rarity (but in all things considered, Spike has barely gotten any pairings as of late, only one with Discord and Big Mac in season 6). --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 21:14, April 5, 2018 (UTC)
I didn't think so, but you never know these days; there's more than a few Fluttercord shippers out there, I'm sure there are those who ship Rarity and Capper, and the mobile game even hinted that Rarity has a crush on Blackthorn.
But getting back to Spike, he definitely has been neglected. Of the seven main characters-though you could argue cases for Starlight and the CMC-he tends to be the least focused upon and first to be left out across the various media. I know the show is called "My Little Pony" but you'd think they'd treat Spike a little better given his popularity. He and Starlight definitely seem to get along well-maybe it's the fact that she's never imprisoned him or stolen anything from him;)? The upcoming "A Matter of Principals" episode seems like a good chance for some interaction between the two, though the synopsis makes it seem like it's going to be more a case of butting heads between Starlight and Discord. Hopefully he'll get some chances to shine in the remainder of the season.--Kilmarnock228 (talk) 20:56, April 6, 2018 (UTC)
That's a Starlight/Discord episode, which certain people have been hoping for as well, and I do agree, those two should also have an episode together judging by their history in To Where and Back Again, as well as having similar histories of being villains that were redeemed, which I hope they'll bring up in the episode, and not just another typical Discord is whiny baby episode! :P But later this season, hopefully she and Spike will get an episode, if not, season 9! --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 21:14, April 6, 2018 (UTC)

Evil/Brainwashed Spike

They already did this to the Mane Six, and Starlight started out evil, so what if we had an episode (like a premiere or finale) where Spike turns evil? Not on purpose, of course! Brainwashed by the villain because they know how close Twilight and Spike are, and if Spike ended up captured and brainwashed, it would force Twilight to fight her own closest friend, but we know she won't, which is why the villain would do this in the first place for their own benefit! I have never seen Twilight and Spike fight in the show, even verbally, let alone physically, and we know they won't because of how close they are! Spike would do anything for Twilight and all his friends, but it wasn't ever perfect, so if he turned out evil, it would let out some of the negative emotions he has towards his friends. He does have them, he just won't say them because he's really kind like that.

Here's a scene from the Clone Wars series right here that shows Anakin and his padawan fighting after the villain has brainwashed her to fight him. Ahsoka's the same way - she's close with Anakin, but of course it has it's negativity that she only lets out in this episode all because she's brainwashed. She would never do stuff like this, and neither would Spike, but brainwashed by the villain, now that's a different story!

So for season 9, it would be really amazing to see a brainwashed Spike! It would really develop his relationship with not just Twilight but some of his other friends too, like his crush on Rarity, or being afraid Starlight would replace him, or Big Mac spending too much time with Sugar Belle to play O&O with him anymore, stuff like that, and the villain would be the one to gain from this, but at the same time it reveals some of what Spike's been bottling up for a long time. He does a really good job at that, much better than Starlight for sure! --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 20:00, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

Oh and I forgot to mention! I'm not talking about "greedy" Spike. That's something outta his dragon nature. I'm talking about the Anti-Spike. One who would never help his friends out, and wouldn't care at all about Twilight. Completely different than his greedy self! --Mega Sean 45 (talk) 20:05, June 12, 2018 (UTC)