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Velyanthe

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Re:Guidelines

Guidelines for this wiki can be found here.

Have fun!  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  02:29, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Velyanthe 02:36, May 5, 2012 (UTC)

Logical Quotations

Is there any wikia guidelines that say British style quotations (i.e., logical quotations) are preferred to American style? I've always viewed it as a preference. I, for one, use American style because I do sociology and that's the style our discipline uses. Just wondering. EvergreenFir 02:03, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

It hasn't actually been put into guidelines (or was but has been removed), but I have seen it on a talk page. Also stated on the Style Guide is "Where the style guide is lacking, please refer to the Wikipedia Manual of Style", in which Wikipedia says "On Wikipedia, place all punctuation marks inside the quotation marks if they are part of the quoted material and outside if they are not. This practice is sometimes referred to as logical quotation. It is used here because it is deemed by Wikipedia consensus to be more in keeping with the principle of minimal change. This punctuation system does not require placing final periods and commas outside the quotation marks all the time, but rather maintaining their original positions in (or absence from) the quoted material."
And it's the most commonly used on the wiki, so it can't hurt to be consistent, either. Vely►Talk►Email 02:12, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
That's what I was looking for! Cheers. I'll try to start using it. EvergreenFir 02:19, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for trying to tell users about image prefixes and sorts but let the admins handle with it k please? -  Azki_icon.pngZeiluse Talkpage Nurse_Redheart%27s_cutie_mark.png 00:06, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

I was only reiterating it after the user appeared to miss the comment on their talk page, but if it's an admin-only thing, then alright. Vely►Talk►Email 00:09, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it's not; if you see that sort of thing, feel free to tell the contributor about it; but then, if you could (you don't have to, but it would be nice), please let an admin or image control user know, so that they can rename the image(s) to be within the rules. -- This is Jonny Manz, signing off! 02:56, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
My comment was after the image was renamed, actually; I was commenting on adding to the mainspace. Usually I see fanmade images renamed very quickly, so there's little need to tell anyone, but I will remember to point it out to someone if I see a misnamed file. Is there a template you use for these things (such as a rename template) or is it just done through notifying someone? Vely►Talk►Email 03:05, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
There is actually, it's {{File rename}} and is meant specifically for that. The first and only unnamed parameter is to specify a better name if you have one in mind. Example: {{file rename|This file name is better.png}}  Food 25px-Surprise.png  03:10, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
Sweet, thanks. Vely►Talk►Email 03:20, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks [2]

Thanks for fixing the post :D Moldy and the Ponds 02:28, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem! Vely►Talk►Email 03:31, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks [3]

Thanks for fixing my link fixing mistake. --Bullet Francisco (Talk) (Contribs) (Editcount) (Email) 20:26, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Vely►Talk►Email 20:28, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, I thought the user was talking about the present transformation. Plus I just left my home wiki because I feel scared there.

{{SUBST:User:Orion001/Signature}} 00:29, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I figured that must have been the confusion. Just thought I'd explain it fully just in case of further misunderstanding. Leaving your home wiki sounds painful, nobody should feel scared on a community site like a wiki. Vely►t►e 00:31, July 23, 2012 (UTC)


== ==

Principality

I have no idea what you are talking about. A principality refers to the size of the kingdom not the title of the ruler. Generally speaking we can talk about 3 overall size levels. (Note that this is not a reference to something else, I try to make an argument for the meaningful use of the word "principality" and why Equastria isn't one.)

1. Microstate

2. Nationstate

3. Great Power.



1. A Microstate can be (among other things) a principality, a duchy or a city state depending on the specific type of government. What defines a microstate is its dependability on neighboring lands. It is centered always around a single city and can include some surrounding countryside and smaller towns. For instance the ancient Greek polises were citystates, there were many microstates in the old holy roman empire, percent examples include Lichtenstein and Andorra.

2. A nationstate is a state large enough to be able to act as a "homeland" for a people. A nationstate has its own tradition and language and consist of several important cites and it was a historical "event" that made one of the cities capital. Other cities then the present capital could be the capital and the capital can have changed doing its existence. An exception to the rule of "own language" comes when we look at new world states. States that once where colonies have the language of their former host nation, they may not even qualify as a "nationstate" with the strictest definition of the word, but because the nationstate is so predominant I use it as the discripion to this type of state. As example of nationstates can be mentioned states such as Greece, Portugal, Denmark or Thailand.

3: A Great Power is a state that not only excercie internal and external autority, but also exercise influence over surrounding states, called a "sphare of influence". Doing the Congress of Vienna following the napoleon wars there were five internationally recognized great powers. Great Brittan, Russia, Prusia, Austria and France. While the fortune changed for some of them, five states were again recognized as being “great powers” this time it was Great Brittan, Russi, China, The United States of America and France, these powers were granted permanent seats in the security council in the newly formed United Nation. Today Germany and Japan have risen to a status where they can legitimately be called, (and calls themselves) great powers too. The true defining features of a GP are that they are able to exercise power and control to be a “hub nation” in their region beyond their physical borders. For this reason other nations like Brazil and India have occasionally also been claimed to be “great powers”



Now we know very little of the world of mlp:fim, and have not had contact nor even heard of any other states, but we do know of several important cities, for that reason alone we can outrule that Equstria is a microstate. It may even be a great power in the world, several of the powers it excursive (primarily the function of Luna and Celestia) clearly indicate that it is a world leader and a true great power.

However because there is a difference between the size of a state, and its type of government, a great power does not have to be an empire, the fact that all empires are great powers does not entail that all great powers are empires. The British Empire had a “king” as a head despite him being worthy of the title emperor, the Ottoman Empire had a “sultan” for a head that only rarely stilled himself with the imperial title of “caliph”. Other oriental realms had even more exotic titles for their leaders that were more or less equivalent to the English words for king, emperor or prince.



Finally when we talk about style of government which is what I think is what confuses you, for you cannot doubt nor deny that Equastria is a nationstate, AND if you follow the logic of my argument here also cannot deny that Equastria being a nationstates out rules the possibility of it being a principality.

A kingdom is, again not as simple to define as one would like, as every time you come with a definition there are counter examples. We could say that a kingdom is a state whose head of state is a single person, a “monarch” that inherits the position with the death of his or hear parents, but many old kingdoms were not hereditary but elective, where any noble, not just the eldest son of the former king could be elected. Also there are many examples of duel rule or a triumvirate. For instance Isabella I of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon marriage was what formed the Spanish nation. These each ruler of their own kingdom became corulers of the new united Spain.

It is always possible to question the actual power that each in a duel rule or triumvirate has over the state in question, often this situation was unstable resulting in one gaining dominance, but it is possible even in a nation that stilles itself “kingdom” to have two corulers. Finally the fact that the show itself calls Equastria a “kingdom” should speak volume, and put the final nail in this argument. You should know that I have recharged the wording of the page and ask you not to change it again.-rphb- (talk) 18:33, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia disagrees with your definitions: "A microstate or ministate is a sovereign state having a very small population or very small land area, but usually both", while "[a] principality (or princedom) is a monarchical feudatory or sovereign state, ruled or reigned over by a monarch with the title of prince or by a monarch with another title within the generic use of the term prince." These definitions would allow principalities to be microstates in the case that they are very small, but does not confine them all to microstates.
Regardless, it's rather nitpicky. I would prefer a note to be there saying that it's actually a principality despite being called a kingdom, but I won't edit war over it. Some more opinions in here would be nice, if anyone cares. Vely►t►e 19:49, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
I undid your last edit to that page because it covers fan views. Based on Wikipedia's guideline for consensus in the face of disagreements, whether or not it really is a principality should be decided on before changing a phrase to something different. I would be glad for other opinions or for sources for your definitions--I could be wrong, you could be wrong. However, fan speculation shouldn't be added to articles, so there should either be a note saying that it is a principality or no note at all in order to avoid speculation. Vely►t►e 21:49, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Equestria: Principality or kingdom?

I've restarted the discussion at Talk:Equestria#Principality or kingdom (again); letting you know since you were involved in the last one. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 09:21, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

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